This is because we see Kale control her form during her second fight against SSJG Goku alongside SSJ2 Caulifla.Īlthough I cannot state an explicit reason why a regular Saiyan cannot attain this form as there haven't been any official statement released with regard to this, I suppose I could make a reasonable argument indicating why this transformation is genetic and has not something every Saiyan can attain. With reference to your point stating that we have seen these transforms only in their Berserker state, that would be incorrect. Broly's transformation is referred to as Full Power Super Saiyan and when Kale uses the similar transformation, Vegeta states that it might be The Saiyan's True Form, which you can see here. I believe the transformation is purely geneticįirstly, there is no explicit reference in the Canon - Series to Broly's form being referred to as the Legendary Super Saiyan. Sources: mainly dragonball wikia, Reddit, the series from which DBGT for knowledge about SSJ4, DBZ+DBS for knowledge about LSSJ and DBS for Whis explaining loads of things. We have seen that Saiyans were leaking ki all over the place, so in that sense it should be possible for all Saiyans eventually, or am I completely wrong? Are all Saiyans also able to become a Legendary Super Saiyan or is it purely genetic? From what I've seen so far, the only distinctive features it has, is emitting enormous amounts of ki. Since both forms (LSSJ and SSJ4) require the same amount of consciousness and mental fortitude, does this mean that they are basically the same? I found it extremely difficult to find some actual information on the progress of the two being unlocked so therefor this conclusion is purely theoretical.Īssuming they are, all Saiyans are able to become a Super Saiyan 4 with enough training, consciousness etc. Once the user gets consciousness in the state he/she can then evolve into the next stage, which would be Super Saiyan 4 (for Golden Great Ape) or Legendary Super Saiyan (for Legendary Super Saiyan Berserk). This all is extremely similar to Legendary Super Saiyan Berserk. The user is 'rewarded' with tremendous power, but no control. The Great Ape forms have been known for all Saiyans to be a berserk state that can only be triggered when specific conditions have been met. What we have seen so far (canon and non-canon) was the berserk state, where the user is simply out of control.Īs we know in order to attain Super Saiyan 4 one needs to have consciousness during the Golden Great Ape state.

Legendary Super Saiyan requires one to have consciousness while maintaining the form.

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